Wednesday, April 15, 2009

Would anyone care for a spot of tea?

Apparently, today is Tea Party Day.  Yes, they are still doing this "teabagging", Boston Tea Party wannabe protests. Why people are freaking out about taxes when they are only being negligibly increased for one income bracket and decreased for all others is beyond me. Why these people only seem to be infuriated about this with a Democratic president and while we are in the midsts of recession is beyond me. But, that's America for ya. Here's their manifesto:

Are you fed up with a Congress and a president who:

  • vote for a $500 billion tax bill without even reading it?  
  • are spending trillions of borrowed dollars, leaving a debt our great-grandchildren will be paying?
  • consistently give special interest groups billions of dollars in earmarks to help get themselves re-elected?
  • want to take your wealth and redistribute it to others?
  • punish those who practice responsible financial behavior and reward those who do not?
  • admit to using the financial hurt of millions as an opportunity to push their political agenda?
  • run up trillions of dollars of debt and then sell that debt to countries such as China?
  • want government controlled health care?
  • want to take away the right to vote with a secret ballot in union elections?
  • refuse to stop the flow of millions of illegal immigrants into our country?
  • appoint a defender of child pornography to the Number 2 position in the Justice Department?
  • want to force doctors and other medical workers to perform abortions against their will?
  • want to impose a carbon tax on your electricity, gas and home heating fuels?
  • want to reduce your tax deductibility for charitable gifts?
  • take money from your family budget to pay for their federal budget?

If so, participate in the TAX Day TEA party rally, the Taxed Enough Already (TEA) party.

Can you believe that people were trying to spin this as a non-partisan event?  I mean, sure, I dislike taxes, excess government spending, and a massive national debt as much as the next "person of thrift" as I like to call myself.  But...seems that that is not all that you are after here.   You tacked on a few cheapshots about the administration that have nothing to do with spending, and added on GOP pet peeves (abortion, "socialism", and immigration) that are similarly unrelated to taxes and what not.  It's bad enough that the original taglines were "no taxation without representation" (as if you are not "represented" just because the person you voted for wasn't elected).  
It is just brilliant, however, to try frame these protests as disapproval of the government "tak[ing] money from your family budget to pay for their federal budget".  Where the fuck have you been all of your life?   Because unless you were living in some form of anarchic utopia the person who thinks that this is both news and an inherent evil is either woefully ignorant or deliberately deceptive.  I'd like to go with both.  As a brief explanation for why: taxes were not invented within the past decade or so just to raid the piggy banks of the citizens, and we need taxes (and the federal budget) as a means to pay things that we collectively need but individually could not be expected to provide for.
And, to better see what kind of protests these are...some quotes:
"We need to warn people of the dangers of socialism"
"Organizer Donn Brown told the crowd he was ready to pollute, a reference to complaints from environmentalists that the tea-bag protests would trash the river"
"Obama is the biggest threat to American freedom"
"I've got a message for the president and Congress: it's not your money"
"DC: District of Communism"
"It's an anti-big government rally....The main focus is spending and taxing and neither party has distinguished itself in wanting to limit this"
"Three months to destroy what we've had for 233 years"
"Oh now I see...Change means Socialism"
"I Will Keep My Freedom, My Guns, My Money.  Keep Your Change"
"I Want My Country Back"
"Free market, not free rides"
"Stimulus:  The Audacity of Dope"
Obviously, not to far off message, not too awful or partisan.  But enough to make it so that the basic message which could be almost accepted across the aisle (that the bailouts are unfairly giving out a huge amount of money to companies that should suffer the consequences of their own folly and that government should spend more responsibly) is lost.  I might've believed, under different circumstances, that the timing of these protests with a largely Democratic federal government was just coincidental.  But, I think that that irrational bias and terror that was displayed so prominently throughout the election season may be more of a factor here than the issue that they claim the protests are about.  Then again, I guess your results may vary:

When Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele asked to speak at the Chicago tea party, his request was politely refused by the organizers: "With regards to stage time, we respectfully must inform Chairman Steele that RNC officials are welcome to participate in the rally itself, but we prefer to limit stage time to those who are not elected officials, both in Government as well as political parties. This is an opportunity for Americans to speak, and elected officials to listen, not the other way around."

Likewise, I spoke to an organizer for the Knoxville tea party who said that no "professional politicians" were going to be allowed to speak, and he made a big point of saying that the protest wasn't an anti-Obama protest, it was an anti-establishment protest. I've heard similar things from tea-party organizers in other cities, too. Though critics will probably try to write the tea parties off as partisan publicity stunts, they're really a post-partisan expression of outrage.

Of course, it won't be the same everywhere. There are no national rules, and organizers of each protest are doing things the way they want. And that's the good news and the bad news for Democrats. It's not a big Republican effort. It's a big popular effort. But a mass movement of ordinary people who don't feel that their voices are being heard doesn't bode well for the party that positioned itself as the organ of hope and change.


So, is it non-partisan with slight segments tainted with partisanship? Possibly. But, considering the
origins of the idea, if it did not at very least begin in partisanship, it at least began in unsympathetic douchebaggery.

Anyway, enjoy the teabaggings.

Saturday, April 4, 2009

By Jove, he's done it again!

m sure that you guys are familar with Ray Comfort.  So....I aTurns out that he has this site called "Pull the Plug on Atheism", onto which he uploads ridiculous videos in which he spends a mere 2 minutes making a point and winds up still shooting himself in the foot during that limited time interval.  He also puts articles on there at a remarkably slow pace, with a good chunk of them focused on evolution (with at least two of those articles revolving around Ray's insistence that the female and male of each species had to have evolved independently).  But, what caught my eye was his most recent video: an incredibly bizarre attempt to cry persecution at the hands of atheists by first inundating us with religious memes in the popular media.  At this point, I shouldn't be surprised.




Here's the play by play:  (Note the nearly robotic, split-second movement of the arm when the channel changes)

0:08-0:16 Dr. Phil says that he is given the power to do what he does by his faith. You see, there's a downside to faith after all! 
0:17-0:19 Random person thinks some woman coming out of a coma is "a miracle...from God". Somebody describing something fortuitous and unlikely, but still not beyond the realm of the ordinary and probable, as a miracle? Truly, that is a miracle!
0:20-0:26 LOL! Footage of the mayor who had people praying for rain at the steps of city hall. The rain dance: ur doin it wrong!
0:27-0:31 OMG! They were asking questions about teh Bible on Jeopardy! This must mean that potent potables are the way to salvation! (I'm sure Jesus wouldn't disagree).
0:32-0:34 Bill Clinton swearing in on a Bible. "So help me God". I am sure uber-fundies get a little too excited whenever they hear terms of ceremonial deism.
0:35-0:42  Guy telling people to pray for some church, apparently after some twisters destroy a daycare center.  But the children survived.  Incomplete devastation for the win.
0:43-0:45  Eisenhower says something about prayer and god.
0:46-0:49  Diane Sawyer saying that some random woman is grateful for prayers from random people.
0:50-0:58 MOAR Jeopardy.  This time it's footage of a man answering a question wrong (and incidentally cut off before the actual answer was revealed).  The task was to more or less fill in the blank for the following:  "It is easier for a _________ to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven".  His answer: elephant.  Correct answer, cut-off:  camel.  
0:59-1:03  Person asking if a person somehow involved in some form of plastic surgery wants to improve on "God's creation".   I wonder if anyone would ask the same question of those who have undergone an appendectomy...
1:04- 1:07  Guy who says he likes to wake up and say "thank you God".  Optimism...it is so sickening...
1:08- 1:23   Dinesh D'Souza on Glenn Beck's show in a video made by Ray Comfort.  That's enough failure to power a whole city block.  Apparently, Glenn is marvelling, implicitly, about fulfilled prophecies, due to "droughts, floods, forest fires,  natural disasters, plagues, wars, rumors of wars".  As if any of those things are unique to any period in history.  I get the distinct feeling that he would deem anyone who said "the sun will rise tomorrow" as a prophet.  Look no further, Beckie-boy.  Look no further.
1:24-1:27  Other host of Good Morning America says "thank you Jesus".
1:28-1:35  John Edwards prayed before his 16 year old son died and before his was wife was diagnosed with cancer.  John Edwards is either praying to a real dick or is praying with his hands facing the wrong direction, thus reversing the direction of the prayer and bringing about the opposite effect.  Maybe this is why Ray Comfort et al. want prayer taught in schools...because praying incorrectly could kill us all!
1:36-1:44  A guy says "There are all sorts of different ways that pastors can now touch people...".  Laughing too hard to hear the rest of what he is saying.
1:45-1:47  Hillary says "God bless America".  Seems vaguely sarcastic about it too.  Odd...
1:48- 1:59   Dramatic music plays.  Content summary:  '90% of Americans believe in God, but those atheists are trying to take our ability to worship away somehow.'
2:00-2:04  "They hate Christmas".  For the love of fuck, I celebrate Christmas.  Not very festively, mind you, but that's just because I am me.  It is not "hating" Christmas to appreciate those who choose to be more inclusive and use the term "Happy Holidays", and it is not "hating" Christmas to want to continue a church-state separation during the Christmas season (i.e. only secular decorations, for what is largely a secular holiday).
2:05- 2:08       "They go to court to stop the Gideon's from handing out Bibles at school".  WTF!?  They do that!?  I thought they just left those things exclusively in hotel rooms.  Seriously, they should not be allowed to hand out Bibles in a public school unless they stealthily broke into the building or the school has arranged to also hand out copies of every other holy text in a comparable fashion.
2:09-2:13     Oh noez!   We want "God" off the money and out of the pledge.  Mostly because they shouldn't really be there in the first place, but whatever...
2:14- 2:16   "They even want to change B.C. and A.D."  Yeah...but we aren't the only ones.  Pretty much anyone who isn't Christian has an interest in using a dating system that doesn't define itself by the Christian deity.  And historians are largely moving towards using the more secular B.C.E. and C.E. instead of the more Christocentric abbreviations.   Go bitch at all of them too, please.
2:17-end     "Back in 1963, it took only one atheist to take prayer and Bible reading out of our schools."  What...are you now trying to act as a motivational speaker for the atheists?  'One atheist can make a huge difference.'  Also...notice how much more accurate, and subsequently less relevant, your complaint becomes when you place the term "mandatory" before "prayer" and "Bible reading".   

He more or less ends with the statement that he put before the video on his site:  "Atheists are doing all they can to deny us the liberties we have to worship God in public. Will we let them?"

Which is a pretty hefty fail, in of itself, because the only "public" forum that we have any qualms regarding "worship" is 1. in front of a classroom and 2. in government.  In fact, it is clear that we are not after preventing people from worshipping in public in general by the very videos you provide. Sorry Ray.  Next time, try not to make half of your video showing how often the media mentions prayer and God and miracles when trying to whine about how those very things are being suppressed.

Friday, April 3, 2009

Open-mindedness in moderation

What is this "blogging" you speak of? Youtube videos are of far more importance!



Not only are the points made in this video pretty decent, but the quality of animation is remarkable as well. I guess it can more or less summarized by saying that "you should not and do not have to forfeit critical thinking in order to be 'open-minded'". But, don't let the spoilers ruin it for you.

More Surreal than Usual

For some reason, due to the "fact" that otherwise neutral forms of media have a "liberal bias", conservatives feel compelled to let loose floods of unabashedly and admittedly conservatively  biased media.  From radio shows, to newsletters, to entire news networks, supporting only a form of conservatism so far right that it makes a good 30% of conservatives ashamed to have these platforms used as representative of their point of view (or at least I damn well hope so), they combat implicit bias by putting out explicitly biased alternatives.   Which, I am not complaining about, because it gives us all some clear targets.

Anyway, I bring this up because I happened to stumble across a "conservative newspaper" the other day  (they only publish the rag monthly, though, so it's more like a cheap newspaper-formatted magazine).  And, it was the perfect storm of unintentional hilarity.  On the page was a cheers and jeers article, right above some select quotations that they undoubtedly supported wholeheartedly.  In it, they criticize Barney Frank, the only openly gay member in the House of Representatives (with the only other representative to ever be openly gay no longer serving.  He was the inspiration for the term gerrymander). They talk about Frank calling Antonin Scalia a homophobe, and whine about labeling people who happen to disagree with you as some form of bigot.  This, just prior to accusing people for being anti-semitic for disagreeing with a Republican speaker  who just happens to be Jewish *.  In the same article.    And one of the quotes below is from someone who usually contributes to the newspaper, stating that people who tolerate homosexuals are homosexuals themselves.    I wonder if that is why they consider it a faux pas to label people as bigots...it prevents them from associating people who do not share their irrational hatred with the people that they have the irrational hatred for.  Truly there is nothing more hateful than throwing a pompous, spiteful blowhard off his rhythm by pointing that he is, in fact, a pompous, spiteful blowhard.

*Bonus points:  Barney Frank is Jewish himself, and they make a rather crude joke about him, his homosexuality, and Fannie Mae in the article.  Alert the Antidefamation League!

On a completely unrelated note:  gay marriage now legal in Iowa.  I think I can hear the ranting already!

Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Sieg Heil!

Here is PROOF that Obama is Hitler.  I think it's about time we teach that fascist dictator what's what!  Who's with me!  Who's got the shotgun!


I finally sees the lights! These sloppy juxtapositions have shown me the truth! There is no Godwin!

Also:


Rap music too! This has gone too far, and it has to end now! As soon as I get out of jail, I am so totally overthrowing the government! And that so isn't the paranoid schizophrenia talking.

Tuesday, March 31, 2009

Merry April Fool's Day E'erbody!

Apparently, it's like Christmas for nonbelievers.  Sadly, I don't make a very good fool.   Fool is not the word that comes to mind to describe someone who chews on upholstrey and spends two-thirds of his day screaming obscenities at alley cats for stealing his left eye.  Even in gaudy colors, and with a clown mask on...doesn't help.  Oh, how I long to be a fool.  Maybe then people will start running away from me when I do a little number I call "the machete dance".

Anyway, back to the coma.

Edit:  Oh, but for an interesting spin on April Fool's Day and its relationship to atheism, nothing beats this comment.
"On the other hand, the value of April 1st is that it may make people view what they see on the Web with the kind of scepticism and critical thought that they might not exercise the other 364 days of the year.

So don't think of it as Fool's Day, but Critical Thinking Day."

RAmen.  RAmen...

Thursday, March 19, 2009

The gays are destroying society...by being destroyed by society

Why do I do this to myself?
I mean sure, they call this piece "15 Reasons Why Homosexuality Is Wrong and Hurts Society", so maybe the title makes it too enticing to not tear into.
A societal acceptance of same sex relationships gives vulnerable children the impression that same sex relationships are good, moral and healthy. Not only does the Bible condemn such behavior, but medical professionals have affirmed that these kinds of sexual relationships are unhealthy.
Wow.  Homosexuality is bad because children might think that homosexuality is good.  Awesome point there.
As for the medical problems, there are two major kinds of that I am aware of.  Higher incidence of STD's, which is due to their "promiscuity" (exacerbated by their inability to marry, quite possibly).  And higher incidence of certain forms of mental illness, usually depression, due in no small part to the stigma placed on being homosexual to begin with.  The vices that come along with this (alcohol use, drug use, smoking, whatever), as well as similarly high rates of mental illness, also happen to occur in other subjugated minority groups.   
Logically speaking, if everyone's sexuality was expressed heterosexually, then humanity will survive and perpetuate our own kind for generations to come. But simply put, if everyone's sexuality was expressed homosexually, we would go extinct. Therefore homosexuality is counter productive to the survival of the human race.
Interestingly, this argument was the only one I needed to think that homosexuality was bad.  When I was in sixth grade.  But, now I realize that it is asinine, because the fate of humanity if everyone were gay is irrelevant to whether the remote segment of a larger heterosexual population that happens to be gay should be treated fairly.  What you do is akin to claiming that giving birth to a male is immoral, because if every person in the world gave birth to a male, we would die out.  If you want to claim that homosexuality is immoral merely because we cannot breed that way, I really would like to know your view on vows of chastity.  Perhaps Jesus sinned after all, for not being fruitful and multiplying?
Naturally speaking, there is the necessity of each of the male and female contributions to a child's life. (It has already been proven that boys without fathers end up in jail and practice destructive behaviors a great deal more than those who have fathers.) The vast majority of the public knows instinctively that it would be better if both parents are present in a child’s life. Once concealed research shows that a child who is brought up in a homosexual home may be more likely to engage in homosexuality. But is it loving to expose children to the predominantly damaging lifestyle of homosexuality?
So if children need mother and father figures that badly, mandate that every single parent and same sex couple get a guardian of the opposite gender to serve as the missing parental figure.  Problem solved.  Of course, you don't actually care about whether children are getting the best possible home environment to assure that they can be all that can be; you just want to be able to say that gay people are bad because hetero couples are good.  And then, of course, your patented "gay is bad because others can become gay" argument.   Awesome.
Same sex unions may be loving and monogamous from a worldly viewpoint, but if they had “real godly love” they would not subject each other to unnatural sexual activity that leads each other into sin. When we lead others into sin, we are no longer walking in love.  In regards to homosexual monogamy, homosexuals remain faithful to one partner about 25% of the time. This is a much lower fidelity rate, than their heterosexual counterparts, which is 80%. It is not unusual for homosexuals to have hundreds of sexual partners in a life time.
Yep.  Being gay is bad because gay sex is bad.  Being gay isn't loving because who would subject someone they love to something as bad as gay sex?  I am so close to just telling this guy to get off my internet forever.  People should not be exposed to things that make them want to stab their eyes out in a combination of fury and temporary insanity.  There are limits to free speech.

Anyway, lower fidelity rates would be mitigated if they had an ultimate goal to which to head for in their relationships, and a way to make it seem legitimate.  Which is what marriage does for all those good hetero couples.
 One of the reasons that Homosexual couples should not be able to adopt children or take in foster children is that according to many studies, the life span of homosexuals is much lower than that of heterosexuals. These tragic conditions create a much less stable home life for that child.
They have lower average life expectancies due to high incidence of death by AIDS (and possibly suicide).  Unless those couples are HIV positive, they should have relatively normal life expectancies.  Just don't deal out kids to the outliers.
Children should not be exposed to the higher levels of domestic violence of homosexuals. Another reason that same sex couples should not care for foster or adoptive children is that same sex couples experience much higher levels of domestic violence than their heterosexual counterparts. Some studies show that the rate is at least three times higher than that of heterosexual couples.
Wow.  He's just pulling off the sexual preference equivalent of racial profiling at this point.  Just trying to spout out random things that kinda-sorta correlate with teh ghey, see it what sticks, and call homosexuality evil as a result of merely being roughly associated with some other kind of unrelated activity.  I mean, I would love for him to show how homosexuality is "wrong" without having to resort to things that have nothing to do with sexual preference and to show that it "hurts society" without society hurting them first.  But, I guess I'll just have to settle for this.  Anyway, the increased level of domestic violence doesn't occur in a vacuum:  it occurs in an environment where same-sex relationships need to be more covert, and where the partners often need to be more cut off from external support (and potential mediators or people who could intervene) due to the stigma associated with the relationship.  The fact that they need to isolate themselves more, whether to hide the relationship, or due to a falling out with family after revealing their true sexuality, is conducive to an abusive environment.  And the fact that males tend to be more abusive, and gay male relationships have two men could just increase the odds of an abusive relationship on merits of that alone.
As much as 33% of child molestation is committed by homosexuals, and yet they only make up about 3% of our population
And the tacking on of unrelated evils continues.  Do you know how he probably got that percentage?  Because approximately 10% of all males are molested before age 13 and 20% of females are, meaning that molested boys make up 33% of all victims of child molestation.  It makes sense on its face.  Except....
"A random sample of 175 males convicted of sexual assault against children was screened with reference to their adult sexual orientation and the sex of their victims. The sample divided fairly evenly into two groups based on whether they were sexually fixated exclusively on children or had regressed from peer relationships. Female children were victimized nearly twice as often as male children. All regressed offenders, whether their victims were male or female children, were heterosexual in their adult orientation. There were no examples of regression to child victims among peer-oriented, homosexual males. The possibility emerges that homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia may be mutually exclusive and that the adult heterosexual male constitutes a greater risk to the underage child than does the adult homosexual male."
Whooops.   Turns out that the pedophiles don't have to be gay to like prepubescent boys.  Who would've guessed?
There is absolutely no evidence in the 6000 year history of the Holy Bible of the wedding of homosexual couples
LOL.  You knew that "because the Bible says so" had to come in somewhere.  Had no idea that he'd toss in "because it's tradition" at the same time though.
Should it not seem odd that the definition of the institution of marriage, as being between a man and woman, for the past 6000 years is being thrown out for something less than what is natural and stable?
Sigh.  The definition has been changing constantly.  It used to be polygamous.  It used to be that the male had all the control.  It used to require certain bizarre series of payments and exchanges on the parts of the involved families and could symbolize a greater union between those families, rather than just exclusively a union between two people.  It used to be something that you could only get with a member of your own race.  It used to be an exclusively religious ceremony but now is a secular contract that offers state-granted benefits.
If we allow "loving and monogamous" relationships to be the standard by which we measure a legitimate marriage then I suppose that women could marry their horses or men could marry their pet dogs. This opens the door for any number of illegitimate relationships, including 52 year old men marrying 10 year old girls, brothers marrying sisters and mothers marrying sons. 
The slippery slope appears.  Animals can't consent and 10 year olds probably don't have informed consent (but please note that, in regards to your immutable definition of marriage...a 52 year old marrying a 10 year old wouldn't have been a problem a few hundred years ago...).  And, personally, I have no problem with consensual incestuous relationships.  They can start petitioning for their own rights if they want to, but I think that the sex itself isn't considered "immoral" and isn't illegal as long as it also doesn't lack informed consent (i.e. as long as both parties are of sufficient age to make the decision to have sex, and aren't tricked or coerced into doing so...a big "if" in regards to most kinds of incest).  

Also: "Whereas real love in its purest form as defined in 1 Corinthians 13:6,   does not rejoice in unrighteousness.Same sex relationships encourage a lifestyle that will keep one out of the kingdom of God, which puts us at odds with God Himself as sinning against Him and outside of God’s order for the family."
So, "it's wrong because it is wrong" again.  I love this guy.
Keeping same sex couples from marrying is keeping them from discriminating against what is normal. Anymore than I feel discriminated against because I cannot marry my sister. Discrimination based on good judgment is a protection for the stability of society and the upholding of unalterable morals.
Did he just admit that he actually wants to marry his sister?  Because that's the only way there could be any comparison.  Anyway, just because you say that it is "good judgment" and that it is the "upholding of unalterable morals" does not make your judgment good, nor does it make your "unalterable morals" worthy of upholding.  What you are trying to uphold are what I would like to call "immoral morals", arbitrary ones, ones that are preserved dogmatically for the sake of tradition despite the fact that it is clear to any objective eye that the "morals" are unfair, tinged with prejudice and unsuited for a new social climate.  
Same sex relations deny some of the most basic fundamentals of proper mechanical applications of using their genitalia. Anal sex and lesbian sex is a misuse of what sexual relations were primarily intended to produce, children and intimacy solely between a man and a woman.  
"Penis goes in vagina" and obsession with procreation once again.   You see deviation from "basic fundamentals of proper mechanical applications of using their genitalia" and I see "creativity".  We don't all need to procreate.  If we do, I am sure there are quite a few married couples who don't want to have children that you should be out haranguing right now.  And we don't all need to use things for their "intended purpose".  If we did, MacGyver would be a considerably less entertaining show.
Consider this that God being all knowing would have pulled out 2 ribs if he thought that Adam should have the option of having a male mate as well.
"Adam and Eve, not Adam and....uh...Steve!1!!".  Uggh.  This is getting sad.
Studies have shown that identical twins could each have different sexual orientations, thus showing that homosexuality has little if anything to do with genetics. On the average, when one identical twin is homosexual, the other twin is homosexual 38% of the time. This does not give much credence to the popular notion that homosexuality is genetic.
This shows that it is not solely genetic.  But it also shows that it has a genetic factor, unless you mean to tell that the standard odds of any person turning gay is 38%.  Which is means that when you say that "homosexuality has little if anything to do with genetics", you fail.  You fail within the information that you yourself give and you don't even know it.
 Same sex couples should not be rewarded with the benefits of marriage, because immoral behavior should not be rewarded. It is not a matter of rights or fairness, if the act is immoral, why should that be praised or rewarded?  Most do not think that adulterers or fornicators should be rewarded alimony or benefits.  Should any sin be tolerated or promoted with benefits? Those who want the benefits of marriage should comply with the intent of the Creator that intended only marriage, between one man and one woman. Feelings for fairness do not determine what is right or moral or you will have moral anarchy. 
Morality: now without fairness.  And yes, if the act is immoral, it should not praised or rewarded.  It's a damn shame that your merely claiming it to be immoral on the grounds that your religion claims it as such and that it is tangentially related to other bad things doesn't quite convince.  You might have won a convert elsewhere, who knows.  Stranger things have happened.

Wednesday, March 18, 2009

Abstinence works! (For the fraction of you who can pull it off...)

Surprise, surprise, a devout Catholic is trying to adamantly oppose the use of condoms for AIDS prevention, and support "abstinence" as a method of confronting the menace.
The Pope has noted, correctly, that giving out condoms is certainly not saving any lives in Africa and is contributing to the problem of AIDS. Think it through properly. What spreads the disease is sexual contact with people who are infected. Distribution of condoms has led to an overall widespread increase in casual sexual contacts, as people have been told that casual sex can now be made "safe". The information that, in a controlled experiment, a condom works as a method of prevention, has to be presented against the actual overall increase in the opportunities for infection to occur. In other words, it's not just "method" that matters but the actual reality. Most sexual encounters with infected people do not occur in the circumstances that the condom-distributors have planned. 

Can you feel the failure!?  No, not yet?  Well, anyway, the fact of the matter is that the effectiveness of condoms in preventing disease is not solely done in a "controlled experiment" that could be said to be irrelevant to the real circumstances in which condoms are used because these studies are done by observing the rate of contraction of a disease for couples that regularly use condoms.  Does she really think that it would be ethical to do an experiment in a laboratory setting to see whether a subject contracts a potentially fatal disease or not?

In short, it doesn't matter whether they use the condoms in circumstances that they haven't planned, because things like that (misuse, for instance) have already been factored in due to the fact that they observing what happens to those who use condoms in the real world, and not in an overly idealized setting.
Remember, only one sexual encounter with an infected person is required to receive this deadly disease. So promotion of any policy that promotes increased sexual encounters is going to increase the overall chances of further AIDS cases day by day. 
Not if, you know, the condoms actually prevent the disease at a rate greater than the increase in sexual encounters.  Unless you are proposing that the idea of safe sex will make these people have sex approximately 10 times as much as before, because the prevention rate is around 90%:  "In studies done on couples where one partner was HIV-positive and the other wasn’t, the infection rate was less than 1% per year for couples who used condoms correctly and consistently; for couples who either used condoms inconsistently or not at all, the infection rates were 10-14% instead. "
Oh, but wait.  Joanna, like many others who try to make this same argument, just simply assumes that the rate of sexual intercourse will increase by the mere mention of condoms.  That they will become promiscuous and have casual sex even though they already do have plenty of casual sex and telling them to "stop it" isn't helping.  My evidence?   None.  How does it feel?
The Church offers a 100 per cent measure that will protect you from AIDS - no sexual contact with an infected person. And this works. In the Philippines, where the first cases of AIDS were reported, the Church's policies were implemented - and it has a miniscule rate of AIDS. In Thailand, condoms were promoted instead, and the death toll from AIDS is high and still rising - and the tragedy of child prostitution has grown to massive proportions.
Your timing is off:  "In Thailand, HIV began with a burst of transmission among injecting drug users, but 90% of transmission soon became heterosexual [23,51]. Public health officials realized that Thailand’s large sex industry was playing a central role and responded with a “100% Condom Program” that mandates brothel owners to enforce condom use in every paid sex act. Uncooperative owners receive sanctions and are identified through STI surveillance among sex workers and clients.
Condom use soon reached over 90% [23], and the proportion of Thai men visiting sex workers fell by about half [52-55]. The government did not directly discourage commercial sex, but mandatory condom use and awareness of risk caused many men to give up the practice. Thai men also reduced their unpaid casual partners [55]. Rates of STIs fell rapidly in Thailand [56], and HIV incidence and prevalence are declining among both young men and pregnant women [56-59]."

As for the Philippines:  "The most frequently cited reason is that commercial sex workers have fewer partners than their counterparts elsewhere. The average is about four per week, according to a new government survey. Other studies suggest that a relatively low proportion of men frequent sex workers.

Experts say other factors may be the small number of intravenous drug users and a low prevalence of ulcerated sexually transmitted diseases -- like syphilis and herpes -- that facilitate transmission of the AIDS virus. Anal sex also appears to be less common"

So, if you propose to fight AIDS by 1. having very few people who are HIV positive and 2. "abstaining" from going to prostitutes, then you might have been right in the Phillipines.  But that sure as hell doesn't help confront the problem in Africa, where they already have a high number of people who are AIDS infected, and where the problem just comes from sex with other people without money changing hands.  The Phillipines just got lucky, and if that ever changes, they will probably get screwed due to the unwillingness to utilize condoms at all. 

On the TV programme we were told that 22 million people had died from AIDS in Africa. The condom policies aren't working. Why not try the alternative which works?
"The condom policies aren't working"?  The condom policies are just getting put into place, and are trying to overcome the "alternative" which was already the default, and wasn't working.

As for the program she was speaking of....for your viewing pleasure.